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Peter R. Brookes's avatar

Found the article very interesting and will have to think more on parallels and dissimilarities with the left woke and elements on the right. I want to take issue with the idea common today that the woke left naturally follows from Christian ideals - I think it only follows from a certain bastardisation of Christian ideals.

Whilst Christianity does say blessed are the meek, it also says blessed are the merciful. It is difficult to be merciful without having some power or ability to do so! But the woke left chooses only to idolise the downtrodden. In Christianity, one recovers by moral self improvement - you are not then justified to do anything.

So whilst the Nietzsche take that Christianity undermines itself in respect for the meek is partly relevant, it only holds water in a lefty-selective reading on Christian teaching.

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Eric73's avatar

Great post Regan. I wanted to highlight a couple passages that I thought deserved further analysis:

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"Without the supernatural elements of a creator and an afterlife, where all earthly wrongs will be righted, the Christian exhortation to turn the other cheek becomes seen as an instruction to enable evil: silence is compliance (if not violence!). While the supernatural elements and demand for pacifism are dropped, the moral superiority of the oppressed is maintained.

These values, within the secular context, imply a need to protect the weak and oppressed NOW in the earthly realm, using whatever means necessary (including violence, which is how some convince themselves that 10/7 can be categorized as an “act of resistance” rather than an act of terror). Rather than believing the "meek shall inherit the earth" and reap that inheritance in heaven, they must inherit the earth in the here and now. With no promise of another world, we must create our own utopia."

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What's interesting is just how little purchase the Christian concepts of grace and mercy have often had with the people who ought to embrace them most, based on the lip-service they give to their alleged Christian faith. And perhaps your analysis here indicates why, because if this is only based on a belief that wrongs will be righted in heaven, that the offender's ultimate comeuppance is assured without them having to lift a finger, then maybe this is indicative of an underlying authoritarian mindset. And when one's engagement with their faith is on the shallow side (which, lets be honest, is usually the case), the distinction between allowing for God's judgement in the next life vs being a vessel of it in this one is easily elided.

You're right that somebody who would "turn the other cheek" only to walk away grumbling about how sorry the slap-happy sinner is going to be when they stand before the pearly gates on judgement day would, deprived of a belief in an afterlife, obviously be inclined to dole out rewards and punishments in the here and now. Which probably does explain a good bit of left-wing authoritarianism – despite the fact that, ironically, much of the left's anti-Israel fervor, even if rooted in sympathy for oppressed people, is bolstered by pro-Hamas propaganda rooted in a fanatical disregard for this life by fundamentalist Islamists.

Which is why I think it's important to emphasize the secular aspects of these Christian values. I grew up in a culture of American Catholicism. Some time in my teenage years, I realized that I no longer believed in God. And one of the most common, and disappointing, questions I got was about what my incentive was to not descend into utter immorality. The implication being, of course, that without the threat of divine punishment, there could be no concept of right and wrong.

The irony, of course, was that the very fact that people would ask me that question with such obvious concern demonstrates that they themselves clearly see value in moral principles independent of the alleged relief they supply from supernatural consequences – to them, said consequences are clearly a necessary means to a desired end, not the underlying justification for such an end. So it should be unsurprising to them that I desire such an end as much as they do, even though I must seek other means to ensure it.

And those other means are to leverage the human capacity for empathy and the expectations of reciprocity that really underly our moral values. Turning the other cheek not because one is looking to the hereafter, but due to a belief that this actually helps sow the seeds of a better life here on earth, for us and everyone else, and that perhaps the offending person is a human whose heart is in need of healing rather than one in need of a good beating, might seem naive at times. But more often than we appreciate, it produces better outcomes for everyone than the retributive and remunerative model of morality – one look at America's incarceration and recidivism rates ought to convince someone of that.

Progressives have lost the plot because they've forgotten that human morality fundamentally derives not from religion, or a belief in some sort of ethereal karmic force, or even the natural desire to "get even", but from an innate understanding of "the golden rule" – treat others as you *would have them* treat you (unfortunately many people sometimes forget the *would have them* part). Most of us understand religion as an invention of humanity designed to *enforce* order, but many of us obviously fail to grasp the fallacy behind how it has become an imperfect intellectual basis for the idea of right and wrong - one which ultimately defeats its purpose as an abstract value by reducing it to another purely selfish, pragmatic concern.

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