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Peter Gerdes's avatar

Interesting, but I think it's important to be clear about the difference between how we use words and what's actually true about reality.

Gender isn't a concept handed down from on high. It's a term we get to choose how to define, and we should define it in ways that are beneficial for our culture and place in the world. One can vary usage of the word without corresponding changes in the underlying facts.

That's the debate to have. Which usage makes the world better.

BTW, I do think there is a perfectly cogent definition of gender. It's a culturally recognized role/set of norms and stereotypes that is closely related to our categorization of people into sexes. As such, cultures which recognize a third or fourth such role can be genuinely said to have more than 2 genders.

And yes, it's true that implies currently our culture has only 2. But it's just like that case with words. A word is a sound that the language speaking community agrees has a certain meaning. So the first time someone used "rizz" in a sentence it was true it wasn't a word. But the way you make something a word, or a gender, is just by treating it as if it was one.

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Steersman's avatar

Some good points on a quick skim. However, this doesn't hold much water:

Regan: "Sex is a biological construct whose categories are currently defined based on genes and the presence of primary and secondary sexual characteristics. While there are people who don’t clearly fit either side of the sex binary, the vast majority can be easily classified as either male or female."

Don't think so. Certainly the definitions for the sexes are socially constructed, but the standard biological definitions for the sexes say absolutely diddly-squat about genes for the very good reason that many species don't use X and Y to produce males and females. And some don't even use genetic differences to produce those two types -- alligator eggs become male or female based on the temperature at which the eggs are incubated.

You might read what Byrne Himself wrote on the topic several years ago:

AB:"Forget Money’s many sex-related categories — what are the sexes?

The answer has been known since the 19th century. As Simone de Beauvoir puts it in The Second Sex (the founding text of modern feminism), the sexes 'are basically defined by the gametes they produce.' Specifically, females produce large gametes (reproductive cells), and males produce small ones."

https://archive.ph/2018.11.02-073140/https://arcdigital.media/is-sex-binary-16bec97d161e?gi=c6496e21d75e

Which means no gametes, no sexes -- i.e., sexless.

Though Byrne Himself is either scientifically illiterate or an outright fraud as his definitions aren't at all what reputable biological journals, encyclopedias, and dictionaries specify:

AB: "In the light of these examples, it is more accurate (albeit not completely accurate) to say that females are the ones who have advanced some distance down the developmental pathway that results in the production of large gametes — ovarian differentiation has occurred, at least to some extent. Similarly, males are the ones who have advanced some distance down the developmental pathway that results in the production of small gametes."

Absolutely none of the standard biological definitions say anything at all about "developmental pathways". They all say that, in effect, functional gonads of either of two types are the necessary and sufficient conditions for sex category membership. No gametes means sexless -- which includes about a third of us at any one time. The sexes are "life-history stages" -- like "teenager" -- and not any sort of an "immutable 🙄 identity".

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