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Mike L's avatar

Good article! I think there's one other factor worth mentioning. Women are shamed for having too much sex, and men are often looked down on for not having enough, so in addition to other women who perpetuate slut-shaming, (or by men who are seen as viable mates by more "virginal" women), low-status men end up projecting their own resentment onto more sexuality active women, not because they value traditional norms, but because they feel deprived of being the recipient of the women's promiscuity. "Sour grapes"!

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Paul's avatar

First, children are cruel and in this case very cruel. I also think childhood sex education is pretty dumb scare tactics that reduces human dignity. You generally agree on the substantive points. A few practical considerations:

- when I was a single guy I was looking for meaningful relationships and I had a rule "easy in, easy out". I get one real signal on how easy it is to get with a woman, and if it's too easy she's likely on to the next man. I had/have good friends who were easy and I respect them, but I never dated them as I didn't want to be part of their man merry-go-round.

- A minority of men have extensive sexual opportunity with women. Most men work hard for any opportunity. If a woman just wants sex, sleep with the player. If a woman wants a relationship, then it's practically useful to be sexually conservative to filter players. Effort a guy is willing to put in proxies how much he values potentially being with you.

-Teenagers are idiots, but better have them have practice relationships then reading romance novel are watching porn. I don't think society has agreed on a healthy and socially acceptable rule set for the extend adolescents (13-23 or something like that) where adult committed relationships aren't socially/economically viable despite sexual maturity.

Socially we care most about how we communicate norms especially to children. Sexual conservatism and long-term stable relationships is a more fulfilling norm. Comparing men and women outside that norm to used socks is stupid, so I agree with you on slut shaming. In contrast idolizing player and slut culture is not socially healthy either.

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