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Richard Weinberg's avatar

Yes, it's a problem without simple solution. One part is to understand what we mean by "fair competition," which to me seems largely a matter of social norms and customs, but maybe there are also invariant absolutes. Elite athletes are biologically abnormal almost by definition. My admittedly unsatisfactory take is that we shouldn't change rules quickly, that we should hesitate to accept currently fashionable trends, and that the most sensible rules should penalize the fewest possible innocents.

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Tiger Lava Lamp's avatar

You went in a different direction with this piece than I expected. I thought that this might tie into the Whose welfare are we talking about post?

The best solutions here would find a way so that everyone can participate and no one has any downsides. As you've laid out, that is very hard to find in this situation. When you can't find a solution like that, you have to decide whose benefit you are going to favor. If you favor the median female (or even the median elite female athlete), you would ban participation for trans/DSD women to benefit the majority of women who get to compete in a more "pure" women's event. If you care for the marginalized outlier, you favor the few people who would be excluded.

This is the reminding me of the political problems that are hard to solve because they have concentrated harms and diffuse benefits. I know Semenya's name and the verdict (whatever it is) feels directed towards her. Whereas, the rest of the field of female 800m runners don't have that emotional appeal and each only gets affected a little bit (at least in comparison to getting banned from competition).

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