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Incel Theory's avatar

When it comes to areas where patriarchy harms men you won't find even men's rights activists or "the manosphere" approaching men's issue this way. They blame men's problems on feminism and "gynocracy". They frame it as a failure of patriarchy to maintain its power. They think if patriarchy had not conceded to feminism, their lives would be better.

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XxYwise's avatar

The winning move is to realize that if there ever was a patriarchy, it hasn't existed for quite some time now. Women were never powerless.

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Peter Gerdes's avatar

Yah it was a bad term from the start. It's never been men vs women it's been people enforcing gender roles and it's usually most strongly enforced by members of the same gender.

Sure it may have looked like men letting women in because it was men at universities, buisnesses etc etc who formally choose not to hire women but if you looked more carefully you'd see they'd never have done that if their wives and mother's weren't telling them it was natural and appropriate.

Fuck just to see how dumb that theory is consider the fact that women traditionally raised the next generation. No gender norms women aren't part of enforcing persisted.

That's why all the serious people don't subscribe to this men oppress women framing and accept that women and men are both part of enforcing gender roles and just call that idea the patriarchy despite it not just being men. Unfortunately, they aren't willing to cut ties with the popular support from women who are less into theory and mostly just want to bitch about the stress that comes from male/female differences so they call it the patriarchy still to disguise the fact that they aren't actually agreeing.

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XxYwise's avatar

Christian-coded Capitalism is a fine name for it, no?

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Peter Gerdes's avatar

Mostly works for me -- at least in a us context though I think some people would want to talk about traditional gender roles in all societies including Muslim ones.

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XxYwise's avatar

I'd prefer not letting our culture war extend outside our own culture. I'm too tired to play #NotAllMuslimMen.

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