Agreed - Rick suggests that it's rationalism vs. postmodernism (or something along those lines) rather than libertarianism/authoritarianism. I'm not sure which axis is most relevant to understanding the two large groups now... but also this comment touches on a related issue which is that the axes best suited to explaining current releva…
Agreed - Rick suggests that it's rationalism vs. postmodernism (or something along those lines) rather than libertarianism/authoritarianism. I'm not sure which axis is most relevant to understanding the two large groups now... but also this comment touches on a related issue which is that the axes best suited to explaining current relevant factions can be somewhat different from the best axis for explaining fundamental variance in worldviews across the broad sweep of history - as Rick points out during the liberal consensus your view of truth wasn't super relevant to understanding factions but it might be very central when viewing a longer history. Also, rather than framing left/right as outdated I see it as a cluster shorthand rather than identifying a consistent axis if that makes sense...
It is in fact individualism vs collectivism, with modern conservatives and modern progressives both falling deeply in the collectivist end. Also, the Enlightenment was exactly a rejection of collectivist ideas, and it was the embrace of the individual, the recognition of his sanctity that resulted in the early success of the U.S. Both progressives and conservatives today reject Enlightenment ideas.
Agreed - Rick suggests that it's rationalism vs. postmodernism (or something along those lines) rather than libertarianism/authoritarianism. I'm not sure which axis is most relevant to understanding the two large groups now... but also this comment touches on a related issue which is that the axes best suited to explaining current relevant factions can be somewhat different from the best axis for explaining fundamental variance in worldviews across the broad sweep of history - as Rick points out during the liberal consensus your view of truth wasn't super relevant to understanding factions but it might be very central when viewing a longer history. Also, rather than framing left/right as outdated I see it as a cluster shorthand rather than identifying a consistent axis if that makes sense...
It is in fact individualism vs collectivism, with modern conservatives and modern progressives both falling deeply in the collectivist end. Also, the Enlightenment was exactly a rejection of collectivist ideas, and it was the embrace of the individual, the recognition of his sanctity that resulted in the early success of the U.S. Both progressives and conservatives today reject Enlightenment ideas.